Gerry Canavan

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Taibbi v. Fernholz

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Matt Taibbi has now responded to Tim Fernholz’s response to his original article on how “Barack Obama, a once-in-a-generation political talent whose graceful conquest of America’s racial dragons en route to the White House inspired the entire world, has for some reason allowed his presidency to be hijacked by sniveling, low-rent shitheads.”

The Prospect writer argues that “the problems Taibbi tries to describe aren’t some ridiculous cabal” but instead “come from group-think and structural influences.” Correct me if I’m wrong, but this is exactly my point. The issue with the modern Democratic party is that its leaders all share a world view that’s extremely narrow. They genuinely believe in Rubinite ideas, have grown accustomed to an incestuous relationship with Wall Street, and they probably think that the right people were put in charge. Their failure to look beyond their own “group-think” for solutions to economic problems is exactly the issue.

Written by gerrycanavan

December 12, 2009 at 12:19 pm

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  1. i was going to comment on that fernholz critique arguing the same overall point taibbi makes here. the most important of these disputes have to do with theory/ideology, not the facts themselves. the ‘conspiracy theory’ thing you pull out is a case in point. the difference between “ridiculous cabal” and “group-think and structural influences” is the difference between indictment and apologetics.

    traxus4420

    December 12, 2009 at 1:51 pm

  2. and returning (indirectly) to our prior/ongoing debate about intentionality, the dividing line here between ‘conspiracy’ and ‘systemic forces’ seems to be the imputation of intention to the actors involved. and this is precisely where i would say making intentionality the determining focus misleads. in terms of practical politics it shouldn’t matter what the democrats (a group that includes many wonderful human beings with good intentions i’m sure) think they’re doing conspiring with wall street. they’re still doing it; strictly within that capacity they are the ‘systemic forces.’

    traxus4420

    December 12, 2009 at 2:22 pm

  3. But doesn’t intentionality still emerge as an important question, insofar as it helps up develop an understanding of just how it is many wonderful human beings with good intentions wind up aligning themselves with sniveling low-rent shitheads? At least for prophylactic purposes, this is something we should figure out…

    gerrycanavan

    December 12, 2009 at 2:54 pm

  4. Tim Fernholz????

    Never heard of him???

    sgt_doom

    December 12, 2009 at 3:29 pm


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