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Written by gerrycanavan
December 5, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Posted in Look at what I found on the Internet
Tagged with climate change, conspiracy theories, ecology, Glenn Beck, politics, Rush Limbaugh, the CRU hack, YouTube
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great view i like your story
the rs boy
December 6, 2009 at 4:36 pm
nice story man thank you
I’ve read 100′s of the whistleblowers emails and never found the ones reported by Fox etc. to be the most damaging. The manipulation of “peer review” as well as the data manipulation/misshandleing contained within the HARRY_READ_ME.txt were abhorent.
Fact is, although NONE of the warmie’s predictions
have come true, we are told to “Believe”. Public opinion is beginning to wake up and these leaked emails of “Sloppy” science don’t help the AGW cause.
December 6, 2009 at 9:14 pm
The manipulation of peer review, as I understand it, is purely theoretical; it’s people sitting around talking about what they “ought to do,” not what they actually did.
I don’t know what you mean when you say “none of the warmie’s predictions” have come true. Can you provide an example?
December 6, 2009 at 9:17 pm
To name a few gloom and doom predictions:
“By 2008 the climatic impact of the shift is felt more intensely in certain regions around the world. More severe storms and typhoons bring about higher storm surges and floods in low-lying island such as Tarawa and Tuvalu (near New Zealand). In 2007, a particularly severe storm causes the ocean to break through levees in the Netherlands making a few key coastal cities such as the Hague unlivable. Failures of the delta island levees in the Sacramento River region in the Central Valley of California creates an inland sea and disrupts the aqueduct system transporting water from the northern to southern California because salt water can no longer be kept out of the area during the dry season. Melting along the Himalayan glaciers accelerates, causing some Tibetan people to relocate. Floating ice in the northern polar seas, which had already lost 40% of its mass from 1970 to 2003, is mostly gone during summer by 2010. As glacial ice melts, sea levels rise and as wintertime sea extent decreases, ocean waves increase in intensity, damaging coastal cities. Additionally millions of people are put at risk of flooding around the globe (roughly 4 times the 2003 levels), and fisheries are disrupted as water temperature changes cause fish to migrate to new locations and habitats, increasing tensions over fishing rights.”
By Peter Schwartz and Doug Randall
Scholars are predicting that 50 million people worldwide will be displaced by 2010 because of rising sea levels, desertification, dried up aquifers, weather-induced flooding and other serious environmental changes. So says Andrew Simms, policy director of the New Economics Foundation in the United Kingdom and the author of a book titled, “Environmental Refugees: The Case for Recognition.”
“ The heat wave that we’re seeing now is completely consistent with what we expect in a warmer world because all of our models show us that heat waves will become intense, more frequent, and they’ll last longer.” Heidi Cullen: August 2007.
“Over the next century, the rate of The effects of global warming should follow a steep upward curve-heating up just a bit in the 1990s and progressively more each decade thereafter-until the earth’s temperature rises to the sweltering levels that occurred hundreds of thousands of years ago.” [actual satellite global temperatures show a cooling trend since January 1998 to present]
More outrageous predictions: http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2007/09/climate_100.html
Also check out http://www.c3headlines.com/predictionsforecasts/
British meteorologists made headlines predicting that the buildup of greenhouse gases would help make 2007 the hottest year on record. At year’s end, even though the British scientists reported the global temperature average was not a new record — it was actually lower than any year since 2001 — the BBC confidently proclaimed, “2007 Data Confirms Warming Trend.”
When the Arctic sea ice last year hit the lowest level ever recorded by satellites, it was big news and heralded as a sign that the whole planet was warming. When the Antarctic sea ice last year reached the highest level ever recorded by satellites, it was pretty much ignored.
[As early as 2008] The West Side (Henry Hudson) Highway which runs along the Hudson River will be under water.James Hansen http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends_station.shtml?stnid=8518750
[…shows a 2.77mm/yr trend, with no obvious acceleration in recent decades.]
There will be tape across the windows (in New York) because of high winds. James Hansen FALSE
The same birds won’t be there. James Hansen FALSE
The trees in the median strip will change. James Hansen FALSE
Restaurants will have signs saying “Water by request only” : James Hansen FALSE
“Humanity is sitting on a time bomb. If the vast majority of theworld’s scientists are right, we have just ten years to avert a major catastrophe that could send our entire planet’s climate system
into a tail-spin of epic destruction involving extreme weather, floods, droughts, epidemics and killer heat waves beyond anything we have ever experienced – a catastrophe of our own making.”
- Al Gore,
An Inconvenient Truth
“The data doesn’t matter. We’re not basing our recommendations on the data. We’re basing them on the climate models.”
- Prof. Chris Folland,
Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research
“The models are convenient fictions that provide something very useful.”
- Dr David Frame,
climate modeler, Oxford University
December 7, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Checking your very first citation, it turns out to be bogus. In black and white, on the first page:
We have created a climate change scenario that although not the most likely, is plausible, and would challenge United States national security in ways that should be considered immediately.
Not a prediction.
The second prediction from Heidi Cullen can’t even be wrong yet; it was only made in August 2007.
#3 begins with the words “over the next century,” so it can’t be wrong yet either. It adds, for flavor, the bogus assertion that there’s been a cooling trend since 1998. Climate change is not a claim that every day/week/month/year is hotter than the previous day/week/month/year; it’s about trends over time. 1998 was unusually warm, but the general trendline remains upward.
After that you have a series of links that turn out to be either not predictions or recent predictions that haven’t turned out to be true or false yet.
Finally we get to the meat of it: twenty-year old apocalyptic predictions from James Hansen. Well, a single set of twenty-year-old quotes from a single researcher doesn’t prove the case that anthropogenic climate change isn’t real. And nothing else you’ve written here even qualifies as evidence.
Also, you said “none.” Do you really think this is true? None?
Here, too, I suppose the predictions were wrong, in the sense that the change is even dramatic than we thought.
December 8, 2009 at 7:12 pm
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